Eat Your Spam

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When you see or read the word "Spam" what comes to your mind first? For me personally, and depending on how hungry I am at the time, I think of the edible form of spam, the one the comes in a can :)

Sometimes, my stomach can rule my head! My favourite, is cutting up spam in slices and soaking it in egg, then put some oil in a pan and fry it. It will take less than a minute to cook - presto, you have a quick and tasty meal ready! Ok, I know this is not a cooking blog...but I think by now you get the picture as to how much I enjoy eating spam.

On the other hand, spam in blogs are another kettle of fish. I'm sure each of you have probably come across it in your own sites in some form or another, so you are likely to be familiar with it. If it's happened to you, how did this make you feel?

This post is to try to explain to those spammers out there the effect they have had and maybe one of them will think twice about what they are doing (hey, I can only hope!). So here goes...

We have a place that is open for people to visit for free, it's like a free art gallery, except it is open for 24 hours/day, 7 days a week. In this place, there are many posts (like paintings on a wall) with different dates and times. When the place first opened, you were free to come and go as you pleased, but more importantly, you were also able to easily leave your comments on items that were posted up. Once you told us your point of view, your valued opinion was shown immediately on the site for everyone else to see, as we had faith that all the people that came into our place would respect the free service that was offered.

Unfortunately, as time went by, to our disappointment it seems some people have a different agenda. Each day, we would find many incomprehensible garbage against our posts or in our niche warehouse. We would have to clean up the mess the spammers had left behind, several times a day :(

Mr/Ms Spammer, I know you're probably thinking, you can't catch me because I've got a dynamic ip address. But do you ever sit back and wonder, that if you left some comprehensible and intelligent comments, you could actually be more effective? Oh, I better not give you any ideas, because people may actually read your comments! The thing is, because of your actions we now have to check that our other visitors are genuine people before they can voice their opinion.

So I'm wondering, do these people actually look at the negative effects of their actions? I gather not, as most sites I've visited will either make their visitors enter in a code or answer a math question and even moderate the comments before it will be posted. For our site, we wanted to make it easy for our visitors to express their thoughts and to allow them to see their comments straight away. I find this method to be more satisfying. For myself, I really enjoy going into a site, making a comment and seeing my opinion posted on their site straight away particularly, if there are a lot of other comments already posted. I feel like I am part of the conversation that is currently in progress and I don't have to wait a day or so to see if my comment has been approved. It's just a nicer way to get conversation on a site flowing more freely. That's why I think it's a real shame when people spam a site for their own personal agenda, they really spoil it for everyone else.

How do you handle and moderate the comments you receive on your site?

I just delete it, I guess I

I just delete it, I guess I don't get too much at the moment though..

Submitted by Lady Banana (not verified) on 19 April, 2008 - 12:32.
Well I do moderate because...

I moderate my posts because my blog was attacked with threats and spam so severe that the FBI became involved.

I'd rather have my reader wait a while for their post to appear than have them have to wade through all the crap that people can leave.

I recently installed a new filtering system and hoping that I soon can have comments posted right away.

Submitted by Leisa Watkins (not verified) on 19 April, 2008 - 14:31.
I Eat Spam

I cook my own spam :D Seriously,I let Akismet handle the spam in my blog. If ever there are comments that are moderated by Akismet, this is because that the particular link or email used in the comment have been rated before as spam. I check the moderated comment and look at the link and if it is legitimate then I approve. Some comments are legit even though it has been reported as spam in other blogs(for reasons I don't know why) so I check them if I have time. Yesterday, I have marked at least 10 moderated comments as spam so that Akismet will have a log of the url and email. This will prevent the spammer from getting through other blogs.

Submitted by Louie (not verified) on 19 April, 2008 - 17:01.
I can remember a time when

I can remember a time when SPAM was only found in email. When my friends and I started finding SPAM blog comments appearing on our blogs, we were baffled. The comments were easy to manage at first and manually delete; however, over time the comments grew from a few a day to hundreds per week. I remember going into PHPMyAdmin numerous times and deleting them directly from there, nearly resorting to purging the contents of my comments table on a few occasions. It was out of hand.

I eventually learned of the Wordpress plug-in Aksimet, which I have been using for a few years and has worked magnificantly for me. Aksimet occasionally misses a few comments, but that is a small price to pay when you figure that it has caught thousands and saved me the trouble of manually deleting them.

As far as CAPTCHA is concerned, I can't stand it. Of course I understand why people must resort to using it on their websites, but it is obnoxious!! The CAPTCHA that you have on your page here isn't bad because it is legible; however, the CAPTCHA codes with the scrambled letters and numbers are so difficult to read at times and really have to go.

Submitted by Anna (not verified) on 19 April, 2008 - 18:05.
Askimet cacthes most of my

Askimet cacthes most of my spam comments and I also moderate first time commentators. If I have approved a comment from you previously subsequent comments get posted immediately. For awhile askimet seemed to catch everything but lately one or two spams make it to the moderation queue each day. I'm just thankful it hasn't been a bigger problem for me.

Submitted by Alan (not verified) on 19 April, 2008 - 21:55.
Another Askimet fan...

I also rely heavily on Askimet to catch spam comments. It's done a pretty good job for me and is fairly accurate. I do, however, always manually review all comments just to make sure and I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt.

Submitted by Marty (not verified) on 20 April, 2008 - 12:11.
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Spam Filters

@Lady Banana - Yes, that's what we've also had to do..delete, delete and delete! PS: Thanks for sharing your personalDNA report on your site :)

@Leisa Watkins - I can totally understand why you have had to take the sort of action for your comments. It must have been a pretty severe case for the FBI to get involved! I've also read your stalking story on your site - you've been through a lot and I hope your life is now much better :)

@Louie - Glad to hear you cook your own spam too! :P
The method you are using seems really good for filtering spam, thanks for telling me about Akismet.

@Anna - Yes we recently installed the math captcha as it was the most simple type. I totally agree with you, some of the other captcha codes are really hard to read. I have good eye sight and I tend to also enter in the wrong code most the time and have wondered how other people with worse vision actually cope!

@Alan - Akismet seems to be a favourite with a few people. It's also good to know that you have your own process that you go through for your site - thanks for the tips!

Submitted by Marie on 19 April, 2008 - 22:46.
Filtered table water

I do use a spam filter called "tan tan noodles", which allows you to define the words you want to filter.

Submitted by Doctor D (not verified) on 20 April, 2008 - 14:39.
Spammers

I truly hate spammers because I have to go in and delete the comment. Frankly, I would rather hear something that's negative but a live person so I could answer it than to have spammers put garbage up that makes no sense to the post in question. BAH!! Spammers would, indeed, be better off actually writing a comment. It would be noticed more and allowed!!! What a concept!

Thank you for writing this post!

Submitted by Jaz (not verified) on 21 April, 2008 - 00:01.
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Spam Plugin

@Doctor D - Thanks for telling us about the "tan tan noodles" spam plugin. It's great how you can further define the sorts of words to keep an eye out for, that could potentially be spam so you can catch it more easily.

@Jaz - Yeh, if spam comments actually made a bit more sense, I'd actually read it! Thanks for stopping by.

Submitted by Marie on 21 April, 2008 - 05:36.
Spam

I, too, use Akismet. Without it I don't know what I'd do. One of my blogs is a particular magnet for spam. At first it was porn, but more recently it's MP3 links. Similar message and always 5 links. It receives hundreds and hundreds a day. AND...I feel so violated and angry that people don't have better things to do with their time and energy. Why not actually do something productive and positive????? Also, over the course of dealing with this spam issue, I've deleted a couple of legitimate comments and that just infuriates me! Sorry for the rant - this was a timely post for me!

Love your blog...I'm glad I found it!

Submitted by Seeker (not verified) on 24 April, 2008 - 13:22.
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Akismet

@Seeker - Yeh, a lot of people are using Akismet and find it very useful too. It is very frustrating and rather disheartening, when you try to sift through the spam and then accidently delete the legitimate ones that's for sure!

I love your 'Curiously Awesome' site, it has really good content that is very thought provoking. I really support sites that have their own originality and allows a person to assess life/things/situations around them. See you again soon :)

Submitted by Marie on 25 April, 2008 - 05:57.

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